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Where are all the Fire Coach D threads at ?

  • lenb said...

    I didn't like the identity he was giving the D last year or this year.

    I'm sure he didn't either.

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  • McSt[]_[]dly said...

    The problem with RS is he burned so many recruiting bridges in south Florida that it would be hard for Miami with a lot of kids if he was on the staff.

    I disagree a little. I think there are still plenty of defensive recruits from Dade who would like to play for a Randy Shannon led defense.

    lenb

  • McSt[]_[]dly said...

    The problem with RS is he burned so many recruiting bridges in south Florida that it would be hard for Miami with a lot of kids if he was on the staff.

    I know he alienated some schools by not recruiting players he knew wouldnt qualify for Miami, or they would be trouble which i honestly don't see an issue with that, I think what really done him in was bc he played favorites and was too damn stubborn

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  • lenb said...

    I think there are still plenty of defensive recruits from Dade who would like to play for a Randy Shannon led defense.

    You are entitled to your opinion and there might be a few but for the most part, it would be a bad thing.

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  • lenb said...

    I disagree a little. I think there are still plenty of defensive recruits from Dade who would like to play for a Randy Shannon led defense.

    You can kiss all the Booker T recruits goodbye them. First thing Golden had to do when he got to Miami was rebuild the relationship between the university and the Dade high schools. Fact.

    WillieMuffcramp

  • ilovelamp51 said...

    When your D is full of guys like Vince Wilfork, Sean Taylor, Ed Reed, Jon Vilma, DJ Williams, etc... it's not that hard.

    Coach D is playing 12 freshman, 10 true on the regular. We didn't have a single Sr on the field and only 1 Jr on the last drive against UVa. You can be delusional and think that's not a legit excuse but you couldn't be more wrong.

    He did have great players but we also lost great players every year to the NFL but he still kept the D competitive when new players did get in.

    And ad Darrin Smith stated many times and today, he doesn't like the D that we play. We play too soft. And he states by the 10th game youth shouldn't still be the main excuse. he puts it on coaching. When the excuse was that DP, EJ, and DB wasn't in the game, when they were in the game we still weren't good.

    All of that makes sense to me.

    lenb

  • lenb said...

    we also lost great players every year to the NFL but he still kept the D competitive when new players did get in.

    Losing Sean Taylor and replacing him with Antrel Rolle or losing Vilma & replacing him with Beason...

    Tough job.

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  • McSt[]_[]dly said...

    You can kiss all the Booker T recruits goodbye them. First thing Golden had to do when he got to Miami was rebuild the relationship between the university and the Dade high schools. Fact.

    You're actually wrong. Do you know who coaches Booker T.? Tim Ice Harris. You know who gave Ice a position at the U when BHarris was here? Randy. So you don't think Ice would possibly try to push Kirkland and Thomas to play for a Randy Shannon led defense, especially when Randy gave him an opportunity to become a better coach?

    lenb

  • lenb said...

    You're actually wrong. Do you know who coaches Booker T.? Tim Ice Harris. You know who gave Ice a position at the U when BHarris was here? Randy. So you don't think Ice would possibly try to push Kirkland and Thomas to play for a Randy Shannon led defense, especially when Randy gave him an opportunity to become a better coach?

    Yes I know all of that, but do you know that Harris and Shannon are not friends anymore? And that Harris wouldn't help kids go to Miami after that until Golden fixed the bridge?

    WillieMuffcramp

  • ilovelamp51 said...

    Losing Sean Taylor and replacing him with Antrel Rolle or losing Vilma & replacing him with Beason...

    Tough job.

    All I'm saying is they were young before too and had to be developed as well and his scheme probably had something to do with them playing well enough to be drafted. Remember, he asked his players to do different things than coach D is asking the current players to do. Maybe if Randy coached these same players our D would be more competitive than we were this year.

    lenb

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  • McSt[]_[]dly said...

    Yes I know all of that, but do you know that Harris and Shannon are not friends anymore? And that Harris wouldn't help kids go to Miami after that until Golden fixed the bridge?

    U sure about that? And where did you hear that? Are u sure you aren't mixing up the HS coaches down here? Just wondering?

    lenb

  • lenb said...

    U sure about that? And where did you hear that? Are u sure you aren't mixing up the HS coaches down here? Just wondering?

    Nope, I coach defense at the high school level(damn I sound like Gomez) so I've heard things about the Shannon group, also have heard some negatives about Golden's group but nothing like Shannon or Muffcramp. RS had a strong tie to northwestern not T.

    WillieMuffcramp

  • McSt[]_[]dly said...

    Nope, I coach defense at the high school level(damn I sound like Gomez) so I've heard things about the Shannon group, also have heard some negatives about Golden's group but nothing like Shannon or Muffcramp. RS had a strong tie to northwestern not T.

    Nah, don't compare yourself to that __________. (you can fill in the blank) You seem to at least know how to have a civil, respectful convo.

    lenb

  • lenb said...

    Nah, don't compare yourself to that __________. (you can fill in the blank) You seem to at least know how to have a civil, respectful convo.

    cheers. I'm not saying RS is a better or worse coach than Mark. Problem at Miami is the football program doesn't have the budget to hire a big name defensive coach, I'm won't say the D will be top 10 next year but when you return a lot of players it makes a huge difference and the D should be much improved with Coach D. Granted if the D was ranked number 50 it would be a huge difference.

    WillieMuffcramp

  • McSt[]_[]dly said...

    cheers. I'm not saying RS is a better or worse coach than Mark. Problem at Miami is the football program doesn't have the budget to hire a big name defensive coach, I'm won't say the D will be top 10 next year but when you return a lot of players it makes a huge difference and the D should be much improved with Coach D. Granted if the D was ranked number 50 it would be a huge difference.

    Agreed but that's the thing, I truly feel with a "different approach" we could've fielded a top 50 defense or better with these same young players. And with a top 50 defense we could've had at least 2 to 3 more wins. Had we improved this year and not became the bottom of the barrel on D this year, I would've given Coach D a break but I knew this year was gonna look like this so he blame falls on him, so I must continue to call for his head.

    lenb

  • lenb said...

    Nah, don't compare yourself to that __________. (you can fill in the blank) You seem to at least know how to have a civil, respectful convo.

    I agree...

    King_Reezie

  • McSt[]_[]dly said...

    cheers. I'm not saying RS is a better or worse coach than Mark. Problem at Miami is the football program doesn't have the budget to hire a big name defensive coach, I'm won't say the D will be top 10 next year but when you return a lot of players it makes a huge difference and the D should be much improved with Coach D. Granted if the D was ranked number 50 it would be a huge difference.

    Question, bc we fans tend to say Miami don't have the budget but how do we know this especially since it is a private school and does not release the salaries of the employees... i think there's more money than we know but we assume there is no budgetshrug

    King_Reezie

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  • Lamp,

    You need to lay off Randy, one thing you can't say is he didn't have any bad Defenses Now he may burn some bridges but it ain't know way in Hell our Defense would be this bad, and He was The Coordinator of the year and had several years whereas our Defense finished in the top 10.

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  • King_Reezie said...

    Question, bc we fans tend to say Miami don't have the budget but how do we know this especially since it is a private school and does not release the salaries of the employees... i think there's more money than we know but we assume there is no budgetshrug

    It's been well known for years Miami doesn't compete with the non-private state schools when it comes to salaries. If I remember right Golden's first contract was around 2 mill. The amount he got when he signed the extension is unknown.

    WillieMuffcramp

  • ilovelamp51 said...

    Losing Sean Taylor and replacing him with Antrel Rolle or losing Vilma & replacing him with Beason...

    Tough job.

    You dont win with just talent alone, it takes coaching too, and RS was good at developing his talent as the DC and coaching them up

    King_Reezie

  • ilovelamp51 said...

    Let me guess... USF is without their starting QB so this defensive effort has zero credibility.. shrug

    Sounds about right to me. Lol. Let's finish strong!

    Seriously?

    The guy should be replaced at season's end.

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  • lenb said...

    I'd take Shannon yesterday, no I meant last year.

    Shannon was the damn HC when we lost to USF. Matter of fact the USF game was the straw that broke the canes back and got his a$$ fired

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