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Mind Games and Switching Positions

  • I dont understand the philosophy of even having depth charts? How is AJ starting over Deon? Deon is young yeah doesnt matter about his first time going through U Tough! If he isnt better than AJ Golden shouldve known by now..that kid Deon I my opinion was the best safety we had....so why isnt he starting ?? Mind games dont work on all athletes! I hope they dont start changing people positions either!!! Same ole $h!t

    This post was edited by 713Cane on 3/2/2013 at 1:39 PM

    713Cane

  • Mind games do work. Also it's spring. Obviously Deon got out worked in the off-season. Glad AJ is getting rewarded for hard work

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  • What does it matter i mean how may months until the first game? i honestly dont thnk any of the players care about the depth chart right now

    adrian21

  • Based on u-tough...it will change eventually

    killa23

  • 713Cane said...

    I dont understand the philosophy of even having depth charts? How is AJ starting over Deon? Deon is young yeah doesnt matter about his first time going through U Tough! If he isnt better than AJ Golden shouldve known by now..that kid Deon I my opinion was the best safety we had....so why isnt he starting ?? Mind games dont work on all athletes! I hope they dont start changing people positions either!!! Same ole $h!t

    You never played football! I will need ten verified witness accounts of you playing as well as DNA samples...you cant be serious about this post! Ask Nick Saban if he gives two shiats about your stars, he cares about performance! At this stage guys performed better than others, period, once they get into the execution phase (live drills) then talent will take over.

    USMCCCANE77399

  • adrian21 said...

    What does it matter i mean how may months until the first game? i honestly dont thnk any of the players care about the depth chart right now

    It's a pride thing. Hopefully the stars of the team want to be the best and will make strides to make it happen.

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  • WillieMuffcramp said...

    It's a pride thing. Hopefully the stars of the team want to be the best and will make strides to make it happen.

    I feel you there on the prid but they aren't worried because for the most part he players areworkng hard and youngr guys wont be as good in Utough as the older guys and they understand that plus we have havent even gotten the commits so its a non story to me

    adrian21

  • Playboy...usmcccanes..did you ever play??..i played professionally.....no stars dont mean anything...im not sure i was even a star.1 1/2 stars.....it really doesnt mean much because its spring.....but Golden did this last year even switching b washington position a week before the first game..thats what bothers me!.....you get stronger faster and smarter with studying film.and with u tough.....it doesnt make you a better player....talent is natural......deon to me was our best db when healthy period!

    713Cane

  • so what you are saying is that we should just start players because of their reputation and not their hard work or effort.

    Got it.

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  • 713Cane said...

    I dont understand the philosophy of even having depth charts? How is AJ starting over Deon? Deon is young yeah doesnt matter about his first time going through U Tough! If he isnt better than AJ Golden shouldve known by now..that kid Deon I my opinion was the best safety we had....so why isnt he starting ?? Mind games dont work on all athletes! I hope they dont start changing people positions either!!! Same ole $h!t

    your new so we'll give you a pass. but calm down. Golden said a few years ago that he established his depth chart based upon who performed the best during that phase of training. being that he only had weight room performances to base his depth chart on you can see why some are listed as first team over others.

    personally i think this is a good strategy. it doesnt let him play favorites for one. but mostly it allows guys to come in and just plain outwork other guys to show what they can do with the first team squad. imagine how much more effective a RB can be playing with an experienced Oline or how solid a LB can look if he has a stout Dline in front of him.

    this is a carbon copy of the events that took place last year. the workout warriors started on the first team and by the time the season rolled around the guys with more talent/ instinct won out.

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  • 713Cane said...

    Playboy...usmcccanes..did you ever play??..i played professionally.....no stars dont mean anything...im not sure i was even a star.1 1/2 stars.....it really doesnt mean much because its spring.....but Golden did this last year even switching b washington position a week before the first game..thats what bothers me!.....you get stronger faster and smarter with studying film.and with u tough.....it doesnt make you a better player....talent is natural......deon to me was our best db when healthy period!

    I say again, especially after this comment I will need ten...you get the point. I have played, yes! Also coaching, my degree and lastly being a leader of Marines and building teams to kill bad guys...this has allowed to understand a Sytems Approach to Training (SAT) look it up. So yes playboi, I understand how to build and train a successful team! Entitlement breeds complaicency! Deon needs to be pushed, why are you tripping off of a spring roster, if this were the UF game, then raised eyebrows would happen, also do you not read the articles on how Al runs his program? It's pretty clear.

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  • 713Cane said...

    I dont understand the philosophy of even having depth charts? How is AJ starting over Deon? Deon is young yeah doesnt matter about his first time going through U Tough! If he isnt better than AJ Golden shouldve known by now..that kid Deon I my opinion was the best safety we had....so why isnt he starting ?? Mind games dont work on all athletes! I hope they dont start changing people positions either!!! Same ole $h!t

    You're working under the assumption that this is the first time these guys are seeing their evaluations quantified. They've been evaluating them since the 2012 season ended and the kids have known where they stand many times since then. It's not mind games if there's transparency. Also, you're assuming future earnings are dictated by past preformances. That doesn't work either. How do you know that today (03/02/13) Deon is better than AJ? If this time last year I would have said Brandon McGee would contend for All-ACC and possibly be a 2nd-3rd round pick I would have been told to GTFO! Right now everyone is day-to-day. Even Duke! Once the season starts it's a different story. Positions need to be solidified so they can concentrate more on preparation. You're making a mountain out of a mole hill. Everyone knows the depth chart is fuild right now.

    BK Cane

  • Again...i realize that its just spring ball....not a big deal...im just hoping hes still not playing musical chairs when the season starts like last year....dallas crawford...put the man at one position and let him grow...offense to defense...oh someone got hurt...dallas back to offense! Lol thats bull......fyi every team got players and then you got your workout warriors like msccucanes! They look good..work hard but when them lights come on they fold and they stomach get queezy.... Mscccanes..im sure you are a leader....and i respect your time served in the marines my friend but you questioned me first......you dont have to throw your accolades at me.....i didnt throw mine at you..relax my friend....for everyone who down voted....not that i care.....and im definitely not wanting this to happen to prove my point....but if he doing that musical chair stuff in August....kiss my a$$......lol and coach D better get his S!#& together too.....hey fellas....I just wana win!

    713Cane

  • megaphone FIRE AL GOLDEN

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  • ilovelamp51 said...

    megaphone FIRE AL GOLDEN

    13-11 in his first 2 yrs. FIRE HIM.

    abs_da_don

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  • ilovelamp51 said...

    megaphone FIRE AL GOLDEN

    DEATH PENALTY

    MATTER OF FACT, CLOSE THE UNIVERSITY!!!!!

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  • 713Cane said...

    .but Golden did this last year even switching b washington position a week before the first game..thats what bothers me!

    You're incorrect in this. Washington practiced at LT & RT leading up to the season in a competition to see who were the best five offensive lineman. Washington actually started & played the entire first game vs Maryland at RT while Joel Figueroa started at LT. It was the next game Washington was moved to LT permanently & he played very well for us. There is nothing wrong with that, Golden did what's best for the team & if Washington wouldn't have foolishly left early he could've developed into a day two LT in the draft. If pieces don't fit you have to move them around until they do.

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  • @ smadison....whatever your name is.....how about you ask washington......the dude was a premiere guard....and move him why? And then say oh hes battling for tje LT or RT position??? If that makes sense to you...then it explains to me you dont know very much about football...when kids come to play football at a University....its just not all about the University...its the kids future you have to consider also....golden didnt take that kid future into.consideration period! Put your son or family member in that situation and tell me if you would say.the same thing???? Alot of yall dont like when a person give they opinion and thats fine...i call.yall birds...im an eagle! Until this coaching staff prove that what they are doing and it win championships....ima keep an open and evaluate them! Dont like vamoos....dont read my post.....the only thing hes proven to me is hes a hardworker, loyal, and decent recruiter! The truth is most the kids come here because.its a Great school and tradition.....i guarantee you.he wasnt pulling in he tracey howards and duke johnsons when.he was at Temple....either he win this year or leave! Or fire coach D if he dont improve period..and if u dont want the same thing...then you need to.do a reality.check!

    713Cane

  • 713Cane said...

    "When kids come to play football at a University....its just not out the University...its the kids future you have to consider also"..

    Huh...isn't Football is a team sport....its all about the U. Team comes first..... kids future??hmmm250k education.....and if they have dreams of the nfl, they have to work hard for it.....

    I downvoted you simply because the comment above... as a coach i live off team first no matter what... you don't like it go play golf!!!!

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  • abs_da_don said...

    13-11 in his first 2 yrs. FIRE HIM.

    an even .500 if you don't count the victories against the I-AA Bethune Cookman Bumblebees......

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  • Nestnore....i dont who downvoted or who upvote....yes football is team sport....duh??? Its also a business decision! If you dont know that then im not sure what to say? Alot of these choose schools for education ans a chance to play pro.....If you think me as an athlete choosing a school because im a team player..youre schizofrenic....team player is natural.......when i was in college.....i redshirted and on the 2nd to the last game my db coach asked me was i ready to go in?? I told him no!...no one got injured...its just the older dbs were getting tore up..as they had been for the very first game of that season.....that staff got fired....2 games later...waste an entire redshirt.for no reason? Lol not me.....anybody who i played with who know me...will tell you im a team player..nothing less...you my friend dont totally understand the entire logistics of a TEAM!...by the way....dont like golf....i dont care how relaxing or many buisiness deals are done while playing golf....

    713Cane

  • Whos Next?? Im.10 >0 ..undefeated with you rookiea

    713Cane

  • 713Cane said...

    Nestnore....i dont who downvoted or who upvote....yes football is team sport....duh??? Its also a business decision! If you dont know that then im not sure what to say? Alot of these choose schools for education ans a chance to play pro.....If you think me as an athlete choosing a school because im a team player..youre schizofrenic....team player is natural.......when i was in college.....i redshirted and on the 2nd to the last game my db coach asked me was i ready to go in?? I told him no!...no one got injured...its just the older dbs were getting tore up..as they had been for the very first game of that season.....that staff got fired....2 games later...waste an entire redshirt.for no reason? Lol not me.....anybody who i played with who know me...will tell you im a team player..nothing less...you my friend dont totally understand the entire logistics of a TEAM!...by the way....dont like golf....i dont care how relaxing or many buisiness deals are done while playing golf....

    Damn i've been trolled..... okay you're right... i'm wrong. Carry on....

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