Through the Smoke

I agree with everything he said. It's not dogging if its the true.

He also has Miller at #3 RB , with Trent Richardson at #1 and the guy from VT at #2 ????

Financial reasons is a B/S excuse. If they truly wanted it for financial reasons, they would have stayed another year and been rewarded with a lot more money after proving themselves. Seventh round money will not buy them that Ferrari they are eyeing. Had those guys stayed, I believe we would have been able to make a run this year with big games at home vs. FSU, VT, and road games against KSU and a young ND team. Instead, we are rebuilding with a very young team ourselves.

David Wilson is no joke either. At least he played through his junior season unlike Miller.

I don't blame this guy for ripping them some new a-holes. Frankly, I'm with him on this one.

He ain't lying in anything he said.

The financial aspects should not be overlooked.
We all say they should have stayed and improved their stock, but what if they all got hurt and killed their draft stock?
The 5 early entries will probably all get drafted, and even if they sit on the bench for a year or two, they are still getting paid.
Let's not forget that the dream for every high school then college player is to play in the NFL.
I bet if you gave them 2 choices, one they can play 4 years in college and win 4 National Championships and never get to the NFL, or 2 they can play 3 years not win shit in college but play 5 years in the NFL, the choice they all would make would be obvious.

We are generally speaking about young men from underprivileged background, where a college degree and 50K/year is the dream in most of their communities. The idea of making a million dollars in a couple years in their 20's is inconceivable without getting real lucky or committing a crime, as it is to most Americans.

Even the league minimum for 3 years is over a million dollars, and having people I know who are in the NFL as the last man on the bench, coming from a no name college, being undrafted and having stuck in the league for 4-5 years and making 500-750K/year means they are set for life if they use that money wisely.

I would have loved for all 5 of these guys to stay at Miami for the next year or in Lamar's case the next 2 years, but it is their dream and it's coming true.
We also might have had 5 less guys in our recruiting class this past recruiting cycle.

Again, I can't blame these guys. If any of us, after 3 years of college without even graduating, were offered a position with a contract for 3 years making 350K/year with a 100K signing bonus with unbelievable perks we would all jump at it, I can't fault these guys
for grabbing their dream.

My point really fellow Canes, he's talking about it too much, I mean we all know if u finish 6-6 you should want to comeback an give a better effort an go out on top but whoever was in these guys ear really are not allowing them to build their body of work.

Our kids dont need Mayock, and if any of you who call yourselves Cane fans (yeah you) DONT want to support our kids then they dont need you either. With fans like this who needs enemies?

Where are you getting your numbers on how much money a bench player makes? Are you including agent fees and taxes in that 3 year plan that's making them a million dollars? Last year Mark Ingram made 400 thousand dollars after taxes and agent fees.Correct me if i'm wrong but didn't he get drafted in the first round?These kids made a big mistake if they aren't drafted in the first 3 rounds.And usually bench players have a very short career and not much to show for there time in the NFL. There are many former cane players who had a short career in football and how well are they doing now? The 2001 football team sent many players to the league, ( Bret Romberg, Davenport, Sands, Mike Rumph,D Jones,Ken Dorsey,J Lewis, J Mc dougal, Williams,W Joseph) Go ask them how well off they are after a few years in the NFL. And these players didn't leave school early!! If everyone seems to think that they should have stayed in school, maybe there is more to it then just being shelfish.If this dosen't work out then what will they have left besides saying what if?

Mark Ingram's contract 1st round pick. yeah he made 400K+ his first year but also pocketed 3.9M in signing bonus, so base salary can be deceiving.

Look down at Sam Shield's contract. Anybody out there get that for their first job out of college for basically a 6 month/year job?

Contract: 4 yr(s) / $7,410,000 Signing Bonus $3,890,000 Average Salary $1,852,500 End Year: 2014 Free Agent: 2015 / Unrestricted
Base Salary Misc. Bonus Cap Hit
2011 375,000 97,250 - 472,250
2012 712,125 97,250 - 809,375
2013 1,049,000 97,250 - 1,146,250
2014 1,387,000 97,250 - 1,484,250

Jimmy Graham's contract 3rd round pick

Contract: 4 yr(s) / $2,455,000 Signing Bonus $665,140 Average Salary $613,750 End Year: 2013 Free Agent: 2014 / Unrestricted
Base Salary Bonus Misc. Bonus Cap Hit
2010 320,000 166,285 - 486,285
2011 405,000 166,285 - 571,285
2012 490,000 166,285 - 656,285
2013 575,000 166,285 - 741,285

Richard Gordon's Contract

Contract: 4 yr(s) / $2,145,000 Signing Bonus $105,000 Average Salary $536,250 End Year: 2014 Free Agent: 2015 / Unrestricted
Base Salary Misc. Bonus Cap Hit
2011 375,000 26,250 - 401,250
2012 465,000 26,250 - 491,250
2013 555,000 26,250 - 581,250
2014 645,000 26,250 - 671,250

Sam Shield's contract

Contract: 3 yr(s) / $1,223,000 Signing Bonus $7,500 Average Salary $407,667 End Year: 2012 Free Agent: 2013 / Restricted
Base Salary Misc. Bonus Cap Hit
2010 320,000 2,500 - 322,500
2011 405,000 2,500 - 407,500
2012 490,000 2,500 - 492,500
2013