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Hoping for NCAA to end the investigation soon

  • IMO:

    - 2 Bowl Bans
    - 20-23 Scholly Reductions
    - 3 years probation.

    marcoscolon

  • NoleBrave03 said...

    One person who is alot more connected then you or I for example is the UF 247 writer. Alot of other writers via twitter has stated their opinion that the USC punishment is going to be very similar to the Miami situation.

    The Guy with a bird for an avatar pick? You call that a credible source with knowledge of the investigation? The problem with most people is that they took the Charley Robinson report at face value and ran with it. No one bothered to cast a critical eye on his salacious and irresponsible claims. Like most knuckleheads, they saw it in print and just assumed that is was all true. The NCAA has to sit down and examine the claims. These claims have to be more than PLAUSIBLE they have to be PROVEN.

    What ever became of the Cam Newton scandal? ABSOLUTELY nothing.

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  • NoleBrave03 said...

    One person who is alot more connected then you or I for example is the UF 247 writer. Alot of other writers via twitter has stated their opinion that the USC punishment is going to be very similar to the Miami situation.

    If the allegations are proven to be true...........that's the caveat you seem to be oblivious to.

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  • You seem to think that the NCAA needs to have allegations PROVEN for NCAA to hammer Miami, that seems to be a part you are oblivious to. NCAA doesnt have to prove anything. All they have to "prove" is that Miami should have known. And unless something has changed in the past few months, Auburn is still under investigation for the Cam Newton scandal.

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  • NoleBrave03 said...

    You seem to think that the NCAA needs to have allegations PROVEN for NCAA to hammer Miami, that seems to be a part you are oblivious to. NCAA doesnt have to prove anything. All they have to "prove" is that Miami should have known. And unless something has changed in the past few months, Auburn is still under investigation for the Cam Newton scandal.

    Wow! I just don't what else to say to you.

    The following is a paragraph from the article I linked.

    "The NCAA enforcement staff is committed to a fair and thorough investigative process," the NCAA said in a statement. "As such, any allegations of major rules violations must meet a burden of proof, which is a higher standard than rampant public speculation online and in the media. The allegations must be based on credible and persuasive information and includes a good-faith belief that the Committee on Infractions could make a finding.

    You don't have a clue what your talking about. Please go away.

    NCAA finds no major violations against Auburn regarding Cam Newton - ESPN

    The NCAA said it found no major violations committed by Auburn regarding Cam Newton or other pay-for-play allegations and has concluded multiple investigations of the program.

    espn.go.com
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  • NoleBrave03 said...

    I never said the NCAA is using the Robinson story in the investigation. I said that if the NCAA asked for his sources for their investigation then the NCAA would never make those names public. And no, giving the names to the University of Miami does not make the names public.

    They cannot use Robinson's sources either. They have to talk directly to Shapiro. Anything that Robinson said or wrote cannot be used, including his sources plain and simple

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  • NoleBrave03 said...

    One person who is alot more connected then you or I for example is the UF 247 writer. Alot of other writers via twitter has stated their opinion that the USC punishment is going to be very similar to the Miami situation.

    LOL UF... your going to believe a writer that writes for one of our rivals?? Of course they want to see us get hammered too! ( im talking about florida being both our rivals, but they dock and dodge us anytime they can)

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  • andrew32 said...

    Wow! I just don't what else to say to you.

    The following is a paragraph from the article I linked.

    "The NCAA enforcement staff is committed to a fair and thorough investigative process," the NCAA said in a statement. "As such, any allegations of major rules violations must meet a burden of proof, which is a higher standard than rampant public speculation online and in the media. The allegations must be based on credible and persuasive information and includes a good-faith belief that the Committee on Infractions could make a finding.

    You don't have a clue what your talking about. Please go away.

    GAME, SET and MATCH ANDREW32!!

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  • marcoscolon said...

    IMO:

    - 2 Bowl Bans - 20-23 Scholly Reductions - 3 years probation.

    Marcos... first off your getting +1 for the tailgating picture in little havana. Some great memories tailgating outside the OB

    However, 2 bowl bans on top of 20-23 scholly's is a bit excessive considering many facts

    1. We assisted in the investigation from Day 1

    2. We punished the players involved while they were still in school. In USC's case, the player(s) in question had left for the NFL and NBA respectively. The school was non-compliant and thus they got hammered for that very reason. Not to mention Reggie took about 300-350K in illegal benefits

    3. The coach in question or coaches are both gone to other schools. The NCAA is making it more of a priority to punish coaches who knew or participated in the illegal benefits. Ex: Bruce Pearl, Jim Tressel, and Tim Floyd

    4. Imposing a bowl ban was a good "show of faith". Ohio State rolled the dice, threw up some middle fingers once Urban got there, had some more athletes receive illegal benefits while they were under investigation. Thats why they nailed them with the 1 year bowl ban.

    I do believe we will have scholarship reductions. Just don't know how many and thats where they can really hit us if they want too.

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  • Canes2082 said...

    Marcos... first off your getting +1 for the tailgating picture in little havana. Some great memories tailgating outside the OB

    However, 2 bowl bans on top of 20-23 scholly's is a bit excessive considering many facts

    1. We assisted in the investigation from Day 1

    2. We punished the players involved while they were still in school. In USC's case, the player(s) in question had left for the NFL and NBA respectively. The school was non-compliant and thus they got hammered for that very reason. Not to mention Reggie took about 300-350K in illegal benefits

    3. The coach in question or coaches are both gone to other schools. The NCAA is making it more of a priority to punish coaches who knew or participated in the illegal benefits. Ex: Bruce Pearl, Jim Tressel, and Tim Floyd

    4. Imposing a bowl ban was a good "show of faith". Ohio State rolled the dice, threw up some middle fingers once Urban got there, had some more athletes receive illegal benefits while they were under investigation. Thats why they nailed them with the 1 year bowl ban.

    I do believe we will have scholarship reductions. Just don't know how many and thats where they can really hit us if they want too.

    I'm just trying to think of the worst possible case scenario. I hope it's far from that though! You do bring up some great points.

    That pic was of the last tailgate at the OB. Quite possibly one of the best I've been a part of as a student/fan. Unfortunately Virginia had to ruin some of it for us. banghead

    Go Canes!

    marcoscolon

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