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How much would it suck if the NCAA comes back after their investigations with minimal evidence of wrong doings that only grants a 1yr bowl ban and a lost of a few scholarships?? I know everyone thinks the NCAA is going to come down hard on us, but I disagree I think if the NCAA had hard evidence on us that they would have already came down hard on us. Look at USC, UNC, Penn State and Ohio State their investigations did not take nearly as long as ours and most of those schools violations were more serious than ours. I agreed on taking the bowl ban 100% but don't be surprised if we just took that bowl ban for nothing. The NCAA is probably punishing us this way of not telling us because they haven't found any hard evidence. We just threw away a chance off the Acc title and a possible bcs bowl game and probably did it all for nothing. IMO if the NCAA had hard evidence they would have gladly dropped the hammer already. Don't be surprised if the minor penalties are announced right before or right after the ACCCG. And if it's anything less than 2bowl bans how much would that suck???
i totally agree with you this is what i think they know we wont get 3 years nobody has and if we do then the media will call it bs that we get that and nobody else in history gets that and if we win saturday it will but more light on what we gave up. Now the time legnth of this investigation is longer then a murder trial so why because of lack of info ill ask this what trial takes 2 years with a large number amount of witnesses testifying how does it take 2 year? if theres nothing there and its all bullshit you keep looking to find something and eventually you cant find it and you give up now i think we get some schollies lost but if it wasnt for recruiting i think we'd just play but recruits dont want to miss bowl games so it was for the best
If that happens I honestly wouldn't be surprised if there was a substantial lawsuit filed against the NCAA for unethical procedures. 2 years and you don't find anything yet you just keep drawing it out for what? Wrongful punishment? Sure you could say that we self imposed the penalties however that's because we were led to believe the hammer would come down.
I doubt this is all the case but I gotta think that would happen should there be hardly any findings. Also we could sue Yahoo for libel along with ESPN for hurting our image and any other media outlet. For dragging us through the mud.
i think the lawsuit is defacing our character or something but if you're accused of serious things and its all over the news and for a long period we have huge case that will kill yahoo and the ncaa maybe that makes them think more about this like we better find something or we are in deep ish
would never happen
Donna Shalala is extremely well-connected and has friends in the NCAA. We would not do this if it wasn't likely we were facing strong sanctions.
It really is all about the U......
Don't be surprised when/if it does.
well then we can move on and nothing will happen....and im fine with that
we werent gonna beat FSU and losing to ur rival twice in one season is not good for recruiting so whatever...
No argument from me.
You can't possibly believe that this was not discussed with NCAA investigators before the decision was made.
Brick by Brick
"There's going to be a lot of people who didn't stand with us who are going to be remembered for not standing with us,"
Then they don't give us as many scholly reductions...simple. its all subjective anyway.
Right the legal term would be libel for doing that in writing. And slander for spoken character defacing. Pretty much covers all bases but we were on the same page. Lol
If Donna has such great connections and friend in the NCAA, then she needs to tell them to hurry the up!! Not play nice after they proceed to trash our image unnecessarily.
Carter and sometimes Bill Baskin
It would be brutal if that happens. I don't know that we'll ever know, though. If we get 10 scholarship losses (just throwing that number out) it doesn't mean that we would have received 15 if we hadn't self-imposed, and if we get 20 it doesn't mean we would have had 30 if we hadn't self-imposed.
I have said this same thing for over a month now. I think we may have just jumped the gun on this & done something I personally don't thin k we had to. Like I have said-if the NCAA had concrete evidence-NOTHING WOULD HAVE MADE THEM HAPPIER THAN TO JUST PILE IT ON US BUT HERE'S THE SCENARIO-THEY WON'T CAUSE THEY SIMPLY JUST DO NOT HAVE THE CONCRETE EVIDENCE TO DO WHAT EVERYONE IN AMERICA THAT IS NOT A CANE WANTS THEM TO DO & THAT'S BURY US. Well the joke will be on them because, they have to be careful of how the punish us & if it seems even close to a BS punishment-our LAWYERS WILL BE ALL OVER THEM & "u" CAN BETTER BELIEVE WE HAVE SOME OF THE BEST MINDS IN THAT FIELD HERE. I just think we should have played this ACC game & look at what this would have done for us if we beat FSU-We would be closing our class a hell of a lot easier with top guy's than it will be now. Doing this just makes us look like we are admitting to be guilty. The only & I mean the only way I can see anything good of this is-Shalala used her inside personal influence in the NCAA & got some info to warrant this suspension because let's face it, she could really give a dam what would happen to the FB team & would have just said"PLAY IT " if she didn't find something out. That's the only reason I think this decision was made.
CANE 4 LIFE & BEYOND !! I BLEED ORANGE & LIVE GREEN !!!!
even if they have nothing something wouldve happened because they cant just do all this and no results but the lawyers will want info on what they have its gonna get really heated
YEAH 21- When or if they punish us bro-they have to tell us what it's for so-if it's like I said even close to a BS punishment then, our lawyers will be all over them for slandering our name & all kinds of stuff. But they do have to tell us what they are punishing us for & I can't wait to hear what they got on us & what they deemed true, this is when it will get good. When they finally have to tell us what they are punishing us for or even if anymore punishment comes. That's why I said either 1 of the 2-We jumped the gun & done this to our self for nothing & just looking like we are admitting to guilt or Shalala did do something for once & found out something & that's why this decision was made. At this point, I really don't know what to believe cause, this has been drug just way out entirely tooooooooooo long on just a story from a rogue booster in prison for 1 of the biggest scams in America & the tons of lies he told so, the NCAA has just hurt us more just letting this drag on. If they were on it & had the evidence like I said-they would have already hit us so hard it wouldn't be funny but, they would still have to tell us for what & this is what I can't wait to hear.
I'm willing to bet Shalala and the schools attorneys have a good idea of what we are going to get. The NCAA probably gave them 2 scenarios of what penalties they will hand down. One scenario if we self impose another bowl ban (which we did). And one scenario if we didn't self impose a bowl ban. I'm sure the decision made will lessen the penalties quite a bit. There has already been a lot of damage done with the waiting game and giving up 2 bowls. Now all the NCAA will do is hand some scholly reductions and probation down IMO.
This post was edited by gocanes 10 17 months ago
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