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600 bench but only 30 reps at combine?

  • Jessie Williams at 323 lbs from Alabama

    http://walterfootball.com/combine2013DL.php

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1274487-alabama-football-nose-tackle-jesse-williams-benches-600-lbs-critics-abound

    This post was edited by stoutbeast on 2/24/2013 at 6:34 PM

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  • Dude you only have to bench 600lbs once.

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    Redzulu

  • Redzulu said...

    Dude you only have to bench 600lbs once.

    There is still a repetition relationship between a max an repetitions. If it were not the case he was almost equaled by Mike James with 28 and mikes best is low 400s. In addition, this guy no doubt had to train for this "endurance" type benching before the combine to some degree as he knew what was expected of him. I knew of a power lifter Orlando who was about 345 pound sat 6.3 or so and his best bench was an official 585 with no shirt done back in the 1980s and I saw him do 315 for 22 reps on a bet one time and this guy was strictly a low rep trainer all the time. He was also able to win the squat in the SE Championships competition with 805 but in the dead lift his hands while large where fleshy and thick and he had a hard time with his grip that limited him to around 730.

    stoutbeast

  • Strength vs endurance, some people have a equal amount of each. Apparently the kid has more strength then endurance.

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  • stoutbeast said...

    There is still a repetition relationship between a max an repetitions. If it were not the case he was almost equaled by Mike James with 28 and mikes best is low 400s. In addition, this guy no doubt had to train for this "endurance" type benching before the combine to some degree as he knew what was expected of him. I knew of a power lifter Orlando who was about 345 pound sat 6.3 or so and his best bench was an official 585 with no shirt done back in the 1980s and I saw him do 315 for 22 reps on a bet one time and this guy was strictly a low rep trainer all the time. He was also able to win the squat in the SE Championships competition with 805 but in the dead lift his hands while large where fleshy and thick and he had a hard time with his grip that limited him to around 730.

    I played sports for a lot of years and I have seen plenty guys that could max a lot of weight, but got muscle fatigue really quick. So while your equation may be right most of the time, there will always be many exceptions.

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    tampa_tuck

  • tampa_tuck said...

    I played sports for a lot of years and I have seen plenty guys that could max a lot of weight, but got muscle fatigue really quick. So while your equation may be right most of the time, there will always be many exceptions.

    As I said he knew he would be tested for reps. and not to practice for it? If he fatigued that much-if possible- he is in no condition to play much of a game using his upper body.

    stoutbeast

  • stoutbeast said...

    As I said he knew he would be tested for reps. and not to practice for it? If he fatigued that much-if possible- he is in no condition to play much of a game using his upper body.

    It's not like he did poorly! He just didn't do some ungodly number of reps. If you have a max of 600lbs and can do over 30 reps, I'm thinking you're plenty strong enough!

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    tampa_tuck

  • http://nesn.com/2013/01/alabama-defensive-tackle-jesse-williams-plans-to-break-nfl-combine-bench-press-record/

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